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Post by Kristianna on Feb 5, 2006 13:49:42 GMT -5
Hey, Wolfie ~
Frostbite was being sarcastic. I don't think that one has to be Christian to be a fine or outstanding.
I am sorry this hit a sour note with you. I am positive that Frostbite meant no offense at all, but I can't/shouldn't speak for him.
K
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Post by wolfwoman on Feb 5, 2006 16:19:26 GMT -5
Hello, As I said, it wasn't directed at Frostbite, he just happened to be the one to say it. I know he was being sarcastic, but if you look around, there are WAY to many instances of people saying that where they truly believe that saying. It just irks me, I was in a crummy mood to begin with, and a forum is a good place to vent if you can do it without hurting anyone, which I try and do!  Wolfie
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Post by Kristianna on Feb 5, 2006 18:34:36 GMT -5
I figured you were just venting. I didn't mean to step in the way.
I hope you're feeling better now.
Hugs,
edited for typo
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Post by wolfwoman on Feb 6, 2006 1:20:56 GMT -5
You didn't get in the way, you were doing your job  Thing is, I wonder how many people out there agree with me, because it is true that very much too often do people take for granted (ASSUME) that people they meet on and off line that are 'good' and 'nice' and 'forthcoming' and etc etc etc are Christians? And then there's the opposite end of the spectrum... those that are against Christians that think the same way of those that aren't. Things that make us go 'HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM' Wolfie Sometimes cans of beans shouldn't be opened!
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Post by Jenny on Feb 6, 2006 2:55:42 GMT -5
Jesus said that you know a tree by the fruit it produces. A sour old persimmon is still a sour old persimmon, even if it calls itself a cherry. Doesn't make cherries bad and sour just because something else is trying to give the illusion of being a cherry. That shouldn't spoil the reputation of true cherries.
Jenny
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Post by wolfwoman on Feb 14, 2006 21:27:14 GMT -5
Yep, makes sense to me, I'd be that persimmon!!! 
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Post by Chuck on Feb 14, 2006 22:53:25 GMT -5
Wolfie, I wasn't referring to you at all. I was referring to people who call themselves "Christians", like certain persimmons in D.C., but their actions ---- well, they leave you wondering, to say the least. They may be fooling, or think they're fooling some people, but I'm just glad it's up to God to decide and not me. I just meant that anybody can say they're a Christian, but saying it and going through the motions doesn't necessarily mean anything, just like there are lots of really nice, wonderful people who are not Christian. I'd much rather people be up front about it, one way or the other, and not try to pretend just for votes.
Jenny
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Post by Washkeeton on Feb 15, 2006 0:01:23 GMT -5
Back to the topic for a moment here--- i wonder if the government has the plan to satalite track these animals, Hmmmm I wonder what would happen if we cooked a few of the chips or better yet ate a few of them??? Not that I really would but what would happen. lol
Just so you all know there are web sites and places you can find where you have been, who you have married, and any and all information about you as well as satalite pictures of your self on the web. You all dont realize that your being tracked and followed, and your privacies are being violated daily. For those of you on the grid system, enter your phone number into google search engine and it will give a map directly to your house. This is scarry if you ask me. I have looked me up on the net and that is even scarrier. It has info from where I was born, includes every place I have lived all the way to the bush cabins I lived in to the house I am presently living in. I am leaving a trail with my social security number, we all are. Jenny you all own land. You all pay taxes. Your taxes for your land identify you where you are. I still say the socialsecurity number has something to do with the mark. IMO only.
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Post by wolfwoman on Feb 15, 2006 0:18:46 GMT -5
Heheh, I like your line of thought. How about we feed a chip that was in a cow to a dog??? Wonder what they would think then!
Wash it is scary, however, some people are more traceable than others it seems. Yes, there are websites that you can pay to look for someone, but there are (as you said) a lot of people that can be found on google alone. Neither myself nor hubby comes up under a general name or SSN search on google, however, I can be found in the white pages in Yahoo, but the info is out of date (fine by me!).
It really doesn't matter what we do, if they want to track us, they are going to, with or without us knowing it. I don't think we even have a clue as to how advanced the technology is, because, are they going to REALLY tell us? Think about are 51 in Nevada, if anyone out there listens to Art Bell and George Noory, you know what I'm talking about.
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Post by Washkeeton on Feb 15, 2006 14:35:52 GMT -5
Wolfie google your phone number and see what that gets you. I have an unlisted number and have since I got a phone there by I cant google my number and get a map. I can, although google my Parents, brothers, and other family members and have gotten maps directly to their homes. It is scarry and free. Just type in the area code and number and hit search. Will make you nervous. Second of all the site I am talking about had free information not paid to look up folks. Was looking for my daughters sister in Mass. and her other three in Iowa. Was trying to find them so she could actually meet them. I found their last know addy and phone for free on a web site. May have been one of the ones that died with my other computer also. Havent been able to find it on here.
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Post by Washkeeton on Feb 15, 2006 15:39:40 GMT -5
I was poking through the online magazines that I have and was reading in the back woods home their version of the NAIS. www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/silveira98lw.htmlWould be worth reading. I totally agree that is is in an effort to kill the small farm and make it all big business. Those who control the food control the masses. Hmmmm. The other thing Silveira said that is scarry is not only that you have to have your name addy and all but your global positionitioning satalite coordinates. So they can find you from satalite. Ok now in my opinion that goes just a half of a hair too far.
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Post by wolfwoman on Feb 16, 2006 19:24:20 GMT -5
Wash, they aren't up to date on ME yet...lol When I Google my number I get Palmer and I haven't been there in a few years now. Can't get a map to Sam's brother either, however my folks # gets me a map. They have been in the same place a long time, I assume that has something to do with it. I'm guessing when they catch up with me I'll be moving again!
Wolfie
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Post by Washkeeton on Feb 16, 2006 23:21:45 GMT -5
LOL I have moved 47 times in my life. The web site I was on had every place I lived up to but not including where i was at the time. That scared the begeebies out of me.
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Post by wolfwoman on Feb 17, 2006 11:58:50 GMT -5
Ok that's just way too wierd, why would they have one person and not another? It's not like we're attempting to hide...yet. Plus hubby was in the military for 18 years, seems like they'd want to monitor that more, and I was in too.... I don't get why some people would be so much more accessible than others.
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Post by arcticdreams on Feb 18, 2006 3:23:54 GMT -5
Hello everyone. I'm new here. Hope you don't mind my jumping in. I'm amazed at the number of people I talk to almost daily that has no idea what NAIS is. Today at the feed store they asked me for my phone number. They are starting to take phone number now. They say to track purchases. The girl asked and I said no. Then we got into a conversation about NAIS. Logically speaking I don't see how we're going to stop this although I am hoping we can. Today there was a program and but passports going to be needed to go back and forth between the US and Canada and by 2007 Federal data base drivers lic. I'm worried. What all are we going to do? I have been wanting to move to AK and now if getting back and forth to the lower 48 is going to be a big pain, I think I may be staying put. At this point I was thinking if we can't fight it to just move to another country. But our government has already shown they can come get us anywhere at anytime and without due process, all we have to be tagged is as an enemy combatant and we can be put in a prison anywhere without due process and contact with a lawyer or family. This is scary, shame we can't all ban together and question out politicians. But humans fight so bad amongst themselves, how can we ever have a united front? I love my country, I want to fight for it. I want the by the people for the people back.
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