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Post by Chuck on Jan 30, 2006 12:53:03 GMT -5
We have made the big time our little piddling forum is so interesting we have one "guest" on 24/7's. Every time someone makes a post this "guest" has read it at least 3 times before he ink is dry. Give you three guesses who the "guest" is. Has this country become so paranoid people cannot talk about becoming self-sufficient.   |
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Post by Washkeeton on Jan 30, 2006 14:35:22 GMT -5
We had this discussion on another forum a few weeks back. There is search bots that scan the forums from the web. We as users are able to access the active users and observe who is on and who is not. So who is this one??? I would like to know?? Thanks.
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Post by frostbite on Jan 30, 2006 15:39:21 GMT -5
It is a sad time we are currently going thru. When your own leaders have reverted from representing you and protecting our constitution, to becomming political puppets of the current administration. Did anyone read the Exxon and Mobile Profit reports? That alone should tell you something. I belong to another forum, which is suposed to be a Natural health forum, but it has currently become more of an Attack the Politicians Forum. If even a small portion of the postings have some validity, this country is in a big mess. And yes contrary to public statements, I feel, as do many others that the current adminsitration is in gross violation of the law. It is appauling that our leaders have to stoop so low to spy on its citizens because thay are so paranoid about being exposed with their wrong doings. I often wondered what would happen if ALL the electronics suddenly became unusable, what would they do then?
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Post by Chuck on Feb 10, 2006 1:50:16 GMT -5
Maybe it isn't big brother after all. I was on a site out of the UK today and down where it shows who's online they had googlebot, Yahoo-slurp, and msn something or other. With all that who knows...
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Post by Jenny on Feb 16, 2006 16:19:54 GMT -5
I read something last week that had something to do with this, too. Maybe in other contries Google and some of the others have to identify themselves when they're on the forums and such. The ads here are by Google, and usually at least somewhat related to what's being viewed, so there has to be some way for it to connect. Or, it could be ProBoards since this forum is through them. Or, maybe it is Big Brother.  That "guest" is still around, but not as consistantly as before. There are snoops all over the place. Hard maybe impossible) to get away from it.  Jenny |
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Post by uyk7 on Mar 26, 2006 20:05:18 GMT -5
I haven't been to this forum in a while so imagine my surprise when I receive a message that states that "the Law requires you to submit your birthdate". What law requires this information to access the forum and when was it signed into law?
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Post by Jenny on Mar 27, 2006 0:21:11 GMT -5
Hello uyk7. It's great to see you back. I have no idea what kind of law. When we moved back to our homestead last summer, we found that we could not get internet, so we were without it until January when we got a satelite dish and StarBand. But last fall when I went into Anchorage and tried to log on to the site, I was surprised when I had to sort of re-register, too, with my birthday. I think it's some requirement that you be at least 18 or something. I gave my real year, but not the other details. Figured it wasn't anybody's business. I've been on some forums where I just had to click something that said I'm over whatever age they require. Chuck said some he's in make you give a birthdate now. But I think you can choose to have that hidden. Some folks do, and others don't. If you don't, then on the date you give, your name you use on the forum will pop up when it's your birthday. Anyway, there is way too much big brother stuff, and a simple little forum like this shouldn't be a big deal to anybody. I remember when I was in elementary school and learning about the U.S.S.R., and all the snooping and spying on just regualr citizens. I couldn't have been over 7 or 8, but I just couldn't believe it. I remember thinking how it must be terrible to have to live like that ---- with the government and snoops always looking over your shoulder, and always having to watch what you say to anybody. I never thought I'd see that day in this country, but it's sure here.  :(OK, I'm stepping off my soap box now. Jenny |
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Post by Ted Clayton on Jun 12, 2006 23:17:49 GMT -5
Chuck,
Maybe in this instance you picked up on a shadow, but I'd say your concerns/suspicions are in the right place.
It's a good-news, bad-news situation. The bad news is, as you figure, there is a desire to use our new automated digital mass-communications to monitor the citizenry. The good news is, it ain't gonna be that easy ... and the more of us doing it, in more ways, in more places, with more people, on more topics, the tougher it will be.
There are 'tech-people' looking to sell nifty ideas & products to those with budgets to buy them and a career to advance by appearing to be out in front of the pack. Example: not long after 9/11, it hit the news that officials were installing a face-recognition system at a major East Coast airport. Computer programmers and tech-types got a good chuckle out of it, because though face-recognition is not altogether infeasible, it's more a case of the singing dog: not remarkable that he's so awful, but that he does it at all. Yet, here we had an Important Agency ... falling for what was basically a crock. [Because there will be a deluge of false positives, requiring massive human intervention to resolve.] The incident illustrated how badly officials want to go with this stuff, and that there is a specialty-industry grooming itself to supply them.
The surveillance-effort (which has, ehem, risen in profile since you started this thread) is certainly real and of high professional/official importance. The problem is, they are looking for a few hundred or thousand real - and, they hope, eventually "potential" - bad-actors, mixed in with 10s of millions of average people who often use inflammatory, 'actionable' language themselves.
But the key here is, do they have a special interest in "us", because of our 'alternative perspective'? Yes. Do they think we harbor sleeper cells? No.
This type of Forum is 'worrisome', and 'informative', because it is an indicator of broad dissatisfaction, and of a potential field of independent behavior.
A bit over 70% of the vaunted American GDP is "consumer (dependent) spending". If a small minority of the population becomes attracted to such nonsense as you & others try to popularize on these boards alternative lifestyles emphasizing self-reliance and personal competence, the effects would be attracting attention in the Oval Office within months.
That's why the President advised, following 9/11, "If you want to help America, go buy a new car" (and why we saw the 0% interest car-loans). That's why we are still pumping out SUVs, in the face of Peak Oil.
Ted Clayton
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Post by smwon on Jul 10, 2006 19:47:45 GMT -5
Well that was all interesting...
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Post by Chuck on Jul 11, 2006 13:15:02 GMT -5
Actually I found a way to track IP's this one was Goolge.
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Post by smwon on Jul 11, 2006 13:16:12 GMT -5
That is good too know...
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Post by idaholady on Aug 9, 2006 13:16:21 GMT -5
If you have a forum listed on a search engine..(Factoid..May or may not be so.....but my friend who has a forum tells me it is so)...your placement on that search is "rated" by how many people use your forum and how often......if your forum is not used it is phased off the search........as I understand........and
another bit I learned is that a computer program that is owned by big bro.... is interested in certain words and refrences to outdoor life and subsistance...(This is fact....not something heard from one person and another...)..and when those words are spoken or written that computer automatically picks them off the phone lines.logs the conversation and those taking part.....imagine the MILLIONS of times that computer kicks in to log only Garbage....
For some reason those of us who are interested in being self sufficient are somehow seen as either a threat or a promise to these folks......I haven't figured out which....I dated a Cap. in the Marines for several years.....before he figured out I didn't take orders...LOL....He was a nice man....we just went separate routes in life....But, he said the kids from the Pacific NW. were prized for their abilities to hunt and woodscraft....
Hugs
Ida
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Post by uyk7 on Nov 2, 2006 14:41:08 GMT -5
Read the other day that the GOV wants to "recruit" one out of 24 citizens to spy. Many of these individuals would be service people who have "access" to homes: plumbers, carpenters, mail carriers, etc...
For those interested in movies I highly recommend "V for Vendetta". I know it doesn't look very interesting from the box but it was a big surprise to me.
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Post by blueberry on Nov 8, 2006 3:15:36 GMT -5
uyk7, I think that what you're talking about is potential legislation that has already been introduced and has already failed to be enacted into law. Bush was calling it the "T.I.P.S." program.
As far as the guests---I came here just now, logged in, and now show as both a guest and as my usernick. No big deal, it's just the way these forums work. Pretty soon my IP will turn into that of a google spider...again, not big brother.
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That "guest" is still around, but not as consistantly as before. There are snoops all over the place. Hard maybe impossible) to get away from it. 
